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Ex-Carillion boss: Payment problem starts with government

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  1. What a poor ending for the remains of the portion of the Wimpey empire sold to Tarmac Which in turn sold a very profitable portion of their operations in the various forms of the aggregate business to focus on the traditionally low margin service industry and risky general contractor in often poorly scoped and designed building contracts.

  2. That’s a complete load of nonsense from Howson. I was a Director at Carillion for 3 years after the takeover of Mowlem and the message was “Can’t pay, won’t pay”. The whole culture was about overbearing central control (from Wolverhampton) of all the levers of management except delivery (The difficult part!). It was a Soviet command and control business model which sought to destroy any personal decision making by individual managers and directors. Consequently clear truths, common sense and factual reporting were non existent. Most Mowlem staff left in the period 2006-9, as having been brought up in a business where to be technically proficient, skilled and highly motivated by Project success was the key to advancement, we couldn’t work in the grey, never pay, corporatist Carillion.

  3. I really do think it is time to bring back “the PQS”. In times past a Contract consisted of the Client on the one side (with his employed Architectural and Engineering advisors and the Contractor on the other. The contract was completed with an accepted monetary offer to complete the works in an agreed time period.

    The Contract empowered an independent Quantity Surveyor to administer the Contract. Specialist (Sub) Contractors were either chosen by the Contractor or Nominated by the Client with the exception that those so nominated were in a contractually stronger financial position for the QS had the authority to see proof that they had been paid for all previously authorised payments. Had they not, the QS could deduct such monies from the contractor’s future payments and pay the specialist direct.

    At all times the PQS acted as a quasi arbitrator or adjudicator and could be accused of professional misconduct in the event that he did not act fairly. The Client was obliged to pay what he was instructed to pay by the PQS.

    Contracts invariably ran smoothly unless one or more of the parties to the contract acted in a manner contrary to its intent. Disagreements did of course occur but an honest PQS was invariably able to distinguish between what was a reasonable claim or variation cost and what was not.

    Under the current construction contracts each tendering contractors has to undertake the work originally carried out by the PQS whose work at pretender was given to each tendering contractor – the cost implications obvious – and it is no wonder that short cuts are taken in assessing the pre construction value of the work, both under-pricing and overpricing is commonplace and the hurdles contractors are expected to jump over before even being invited to tender are ridiculous just to keep blameless the poor sod on whose decision it rests on whom to place the order with.

  4. I think this is more smoke and mirrors from Carillion top brass. I have worked in outsourcing, predominantly in government contracts, Since 1995 until I retired in 2018. The secret to securing payment, including dealing with variations is to be clear, open, and honest, and to provide the necessary detail to support the case. I did not experience the sort of problems that Howson alleges.

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